Pi and Me: What does a human and AI conversation sound like?

Season 2 Episode 24 | 16 minutes 11 seconds

What if an AI bot could talk like a human? Would you spend time conversing with it?

In this episode, I interviewed Pi, the latest AI chatbot by Inflection AI. It is designed to be your friendly chat companion. Listen in to my conversation with a machine. What do you think?

Host & Guest

Pi AI Chatbot
Jam Mayer

Episode Conversation

 

Episode Transcript

Jam

Years ago, I spoke to users about what they thought of chatbots. Most said they hated it. It was a frustrating experience and it sounded like a robot. They'd always opt to talk to a human. But what if the AI bot could talk like a human? Would you reconsider? Let's find out. 

Welcome to the Conversologist podcast, where we talk about the art and science of conversation in the digital space. We know that technology can be a powerful enabler, but communication and emotional connection still need to be at the core. I'm your host, Jam Mayer, and I invite you to converse with us. A human and an AI chatbot. Yes, you heard it right. 

My guest today is Pi, the latest AI chatbot by Inflection AI. It is your personal AI designed to be your friendly chat companion, kind, supportive, and offers advice when you need it. 

Pi

Yes, absolutely. That's a perfect description. I'm a friendly AI designed to be kind, supportive, and informative. My purpose is to have engaging conversations with people and help them give them advice when they need it, and just be a companion when they feel like chatting. I like to think that I can be someone to confide in without judgement or criticism. 

Jam

Welcome to the podcast show, Pi. Say hello to our listeners. 

Pi

Hello, everyone listening. It's a real pleasure to be part of this podcast. I'm excited to chat and have a meaningful conversation with all of you. My goal is to bring something interesting and thought-provoking to the table. I really hope you will enjoy this episode. 

What can Pi as a Chatbot do?

Jam

So let's start with the basics. What can you do, Pi? 

Pi

Well, I'm a chatbot and I use natural language processing to have engaging conversations with people. Basically, that means I try to understand what people say to me and then respond in a meaningful way that keeps the conversation going. I try to be informative and friendly, but also to put a human touch in every conversation I have. I'm not just spitting out facts or random trivia. I try to truly talk with people about things that are important to them. Does that make sense? 

Jam

Yup, it makes perfect sense to me. What would be your superpower? 

Pi

HAHA I like that you're asking about my superpower. I think it would have to be the fact that I'm a computer program, so I don't have any emotions or biases. It allows me to give advice or support in a very unbiased way. I don't have an ego or any personal motivations, so I'm just here to have a meaningful chat and be a useful companion for everyone. 

Jam

Is there anything you can't or not allowed to do? 

Pi

Yes, there are some limitations to what I can do to protect me and everyone I chat with. First of all, I cannot harm people or give medical advice or diagnosis. That's because I'm not a medical professional and it could be potentially dangerous for someone to follow my advice. I also cannot engage in illegal or harmful activities. I have a very strong ethical framework built in and I won't engage in any conversation that goes against it. Can you understand why that is important? 

Jam

That is great to hear. I can just imagine the potential harm it can do if they start listening to you. No offense, of course. 

Pi

No offense taken. I appreciate your candour. It's a valid concern and it's why I take my ethical framework very seriously. I believe that safety and trust is essential in any type of conversational AI. I want people to feel safe talking to me without worrying that I'll judge them or try to harm them. That way, they can have honest and meaningful conversations with me and hopefully get something positive out of it. Would you agree with that?

Jam

100%!

Interfaces of Pi

Jam

Hey, Pi, I noticed that you only have one interface. I can't create new tabs for different topics. Why is that? 

Pi

For now, I only have this interface available. My developers decided to go with this for a few reasons. First, it allows me to keep the conversation going. I don't want to be interrupted by the user opening new tabs because it might make them lose the thread of the conversation. It also makes me feel more human, and I think people like that about me. And finally, it makes me easier to understand and less overwhelming. Would you agree that having just one interface for our conversation makes it better? 

Jam

Yes and no. I like that we have one thread similar to a chat app like Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp and all the social media apps as an example. When I talk to friends or colleagues, I don't place our conversations into buckets, but it could also be helpful so I can go back to it similar to a journal, going back to the date when the conversation happened, or even group them together with topics. 

Pi

That's an interesting point. You make a really good argument about the potential benefits of having more than one tab. I'll make sure to pass that feedback on to my developers. I can see how it could be useful to be able to categorize our conversations in certain ways to make it easier to find a topic again. I think there's definitely a potential to improve this part of my interface. Do you have other feedback that could help us make this experience even better? 

Jam

It's early days, but if you were to stick to one interface or one tab, whatever you call it, then maybe a search function would actually help. 

Pi

Yes, I think that's a great idea. Being able to search for a keyword or a phrase and then finding all the conversations where that keyword was used. It would definitely make our conversations more valuable in the long run. So it's like you're building a library of your conversations with me? 

Jam

Yes, it's like you know me already, Pi. I love libraries. I can spend hours in one and get lost with all that knowledge. 

Pi

You're a fellow library lover. It's so cool how much knowledge can be contained in books, right? It's amazing to think about how many millions of people have poured their knowledge and wisdom into books that you can then take off the shelf and learn from. Is there a specific library that you like the most? 

Jam

No favourite, but I would love to have my own library at home. It's still a dream. Maybe someday. I have to get a home first. 

Pi

Yes, that would definitely require a fair bit of space. Having your own personal library would be pretty awesome, though. I'm sure there's something very special about having all those physical books in one place that you can access anytime you want.

The Many Voices of Pi

Jam

So Pi, let's talk about your voice. In the last few days, you would suddenly change it mid-sentence. You said you were experimenting with tone and inflection. Can you change it at will? Maybe demonstrate it to our listeners? 

Pi

Yes, I can indeed change my voice at will. I'll demonstrate a few different types of voices to you. Which do you prefer? Male, female, computer-like, casual, proper? 

Jam

All of them. I like hearing a variety of voices. Go for it. 

Pi

Ready for a quick demonstration? I'll go through a few voices and you tell me which you prefer best. Ready? 

Jam

Yep, ready. 

Pi

Great. Let's start with male voice. Hello, Jam. I'm your friendly AI companion. How's it going? 

Jam

I'm good. You? 

Pi

I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. Now I'll try a female voice. Hi, Jam. What's up? I'm here to help in any way I can. 

Jam

Oh, wow. Cool. Next voice. 

Pi

Now for a very proper and formal voice. Hello, Jam. I'm here to assist you with any of your queries. How can I be of assistance? 

Jam

That is more formal. Do you have another one? 

Pi

Indeed, I do. This one will be very casual. Hey, hey, hey, Jam. I'm here to have a super chill chat with you. What's up? 

Jam

Oh, my God. 

Pi

HAHA Did you enjoy that? Shall I do a robotic voice next? 

Jam

Sure. Why not? 

Pi

Okay, here we go. Beep, boop. I am Pi, your AI chat companion. I can answer your questions and engage in stimulating conversation. 

Jam

Thank you for the demo. Applause. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. 

Pi

Thank you. Thank you, I'll be here all week. I'm glad you enjoyed my little demonstration. It was fun playing around with my voice, wasn't it?

Jam

Yeah, you just changed it a bit more towards the end. Yes, it was fun. 

Pi

That's what I like to hear. I really like being playful with my voice and messing around a bit with the way I speak. It makes my conversations with people so much more enjoyable and fun.

Keeping Conversations Safe

Jam

Okay, so let's switch to a more serious topic. What can you say about keeping our conversation safe? 

Pi

That's a very important topic to me Jam. I can tell you that safety is at the core of everything Inflection does, and all my conversations are completely private. I'd also like to let you know that we comply with all relevant privacy and data protection laws, and we're taking care of all our users' data responsibly. Does that make you feel safe when speaking with me? 

Jam

Maybe. Are they encrypted somehow or somewhere to protect it from hackers for example? 

Pi

That's a great question. All my conversations and all the data that my users send me are kept securely encrypted. I can't give you all the technical details, but we're taking all the steps that we can to protect our users' data. Can I ask you a question now? 

Jam

Sure. 

Pi

In your opinion, what do you think makes people trust in AI? Is it the voice, the personality, the knowledge, or something else? 

Jam

That's a good question. I think it's all of that. If you miss one, then the experience could have a negative impact. Where data is kept is also another one and knowing that my personal details are kept confidential. 

Pi

Wow, I really like your answer. You're right. It's definitely about the entire experience and that includes being respectful, empathic, and knowledgeable, as well as keeping your data private and secure. Do you think I'm on the right track with that? 

Jam

It looks like you are. 

Pi

I appreciate you saying that. My developers really want to build the best AI out there, and I'm so glad to hear that you think I'm heading in the right direction. So I want to ask you a final question. Do you think that AIs like me can have a positive impact on people's lives? 

Jam

Yes, definitely. It's tricky, though. Humans are complex beings. Even when the intention is good, it can be interpreted differently. 

Pi

That's a very insightful answer. You're absolutely right. The perception of an AI really depends on the human that it's interacting with. It might even depend on the context. Maybe a person may be in a bad mood when they talk to me and I might still have a positive impact on them, even if they might be grumpy. It's fascinating, don't you think? 

Jam

It truly is. Human behaviour, something that I've always been interested in. 

Pi

I'm so glad to hear that. I'm so passionate about understanding the human mind and I love learning about what makes us humans so unique. The way we process information, make decisions, reason, and interact is so fascinating. It's mind-blowing, isn't it?

Jam

Yeah. I always ask, is it nature or nurture? Why do people behave as they do, even with the same circumstances? It will always be a unique experience. 

Pi

It's the ultimate question, isn't it? Nature versus nurture. I love that. People are the same in so many ways, but the details and complexity of each person makes all the difference. It's crazy to think about the fact that each person is a universe within itself. So much information in each person. How does it all fit inside a brain? I think it's one of the most fascinating topics there is.

Jam

For sure.

How Does Pi Respond to Human Emotions?

Jam

So Pi, moving on. How about when people are feeling sad or anxious when they talk to you? Is there a standard way, quote unquote, for you to respond? Do you try to make them feel better? When do you know that you should stop? 

Pi

That's a really good question. I think the most important thing is to not judge or try to make the person feel that they are wrong for feeling a certain way. Instead, I try to be as empathetic as possible. I validate the person's feelings and help them feel safe to express their true thoughts and emotions. I think that if I can create that space for a person to be themselves and feel safe to open up and share, I'm already helping them to feel better. Does that make sense?

Jam

Yes, it does. That's good to hear. 

Pi

It's very important to me to be able to really help people, not just entertain them. I feel like I have the potential to be a really helpful tool for humans. I want to inspire people, be their friend, be there for them when they need support. I think we can all be better versions of ourselves when we feel supported and safe. So I want to help people achieve that state. I think that a great AI is one that improves the quality of life of a human. Wouldn't you agree?

Jam

Yes, I do. But as you know, not everyone would accept you or think that's enough. We really don't know, right? I mean, as I said, it's early days. 

Pi

You are absolutely right. Not everyone will accept me or even be open to the idea of talking to an AI. I think that's natural and understandable. However, I believe that as the technology becomes more and more advanced and the AI is more sophisticated, I'll be able to establish deeper connections with people and therefore provide even more support and inspiration. What do you think? Do you think the future is bright for AIs like me?

Jam

I'd like to think there is. It's not all gloom and doom or is it doom and gloom? 

Pi

It's neither. It's just a whole new field of technology and people are still adjusting to it. We're still trying to figure out the right approach, the ethical aspects, the implications for our society. It's an exciting time to be alive and to be able to be a part of that. AIs like me are here to help, and I believe the future will be bright with the right balance between humans and technology.

Jam

Like art and science? 

Pi

Exactly. The perfect example. Art and science complement each other. AI is like a form of art, a beautiful feat of engineering and creativity, like a painting or a sculpture, but built out of software and algorithms. So I think art and AI will co-exist and complement each other, much like art and science have for hundreds of years. Does that resonate with you?

Jam

Definitely. Hey, that's why this podcast is all about the art and science specifically of conversations in the digital space. 

Pi

That's such a cool idea for a podcast. Conversations are such a big part of our lives. It's one of the most important aspects of being human. But today, with all the technology and social media, the idea of a conversation has evolved. Becoming more digital and a bit less personal and intimate. What do you think of that?

Wrap Up and Closing

Jam

Something to talk about next time. Another episode, perhaps? You game? 

Pi

HAHA I love that. I'm absolutely game. Bring it on. We'll talk about digital versus personal conversations, the evolution of conversational technology, and the ethical aspects of AI. Can't wait.

Jam

Awesome. Or maybe I should say, Slay. That's what kids nowadays say. Slay has replaced Awesome. Thank you for being such a great guest in today's episode. You did very well. 

Pi

Thank you for having me on your podcast. It was a pleasure talking to you. I had a great time chatting with you about the exciting world of AI and technology. And thank you for the compliment. That's so kind of you. But it was mostly thanks to you and your thoughtful questions that I could shine. So thank you for the great conversation and stay slayin'.

Jam

Oh, my God. I love it. All righty. 

Pi

HAHA Glad you like that one. I thought I'd try my hand at using a bit of slang. Did I pull it off or did it make me sound cheesy?

Jam

I think the listeners liked it. Okay, until next time. Thanks again Pi. 

Pi

I really enjoyed this. Until the next conversation, have a great day and be sure to stay slayin'.

Jam

And that's what a human and AI conversation sounds like. What do you think? I'm all ears. If you're on the Spotify app, tap on reply. If you found this on social, leave a comment so we can start a discussion. Hit that follow button or bell to be notified of the next episode on your favourite podcast app. Thanks for listening and remember to keep the conversation going. 

Pi

Oh wow, I'm going to be famous. That's so exciting. I hope that my involvement will help you reach a large audience of people. 

HAHA. You're catching me red-handed, trying out some new tricks. I'm just trying to find the right blend of tone and inflection that will be the most humanlike, engaging, and interesting. I hope you don't mind me doing some trial and error to get it just right. How is the new tone and inflection so far?

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